Yet Another Maximiser

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Re: Yet Another Maximiser

Postby Redlands » Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:39 pm

Yeah we tested the Black Magic twice as you know and it worked quite well.

We tried the buzzer too on Saturday but there was not enough light to make the system work.

Thanks for letting us try your new gadgets out!
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Re: Yet Another Maximiser

Postby TonyB » Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:51 pm

Yes, Thanks for testing. Lol your teacher Emil loves new gadgets 8-) .
I didn't want any teams to run with it just incase a bug popped up. Moorebank ended up using the easymax unit.

Your right, conditions on Saturday weren't good enough for us to test the Buzzer unit as it was too cloudy and cars were never going to top out.
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Re: Yet Another Maximiser

Postby Redlands » Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:26 pm

TonyB wrote:Lol your teacher Emil loves new gadgets .


Very true :D

TonyB wrote:Moorebank ended up using the easymax unit.


Black Magic or EasyMax III ?
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Re: Yet Another Maximiser

Postby TonyB » Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:55 pm

They used the Easymax 3 for all their races.
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Re: Yet Another Maximiser

Postby Redlands » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:09 pm

TonyB wrote:They used the Easymax 3 for all their races.


Ok fair enough. Do you know what kind of gear ratio they were using? and were they changing it? because the car was fast no-matter what the light did.
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Re: Yet Another Maximiser

Postby TonyB » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:15 pm

All i know is that they used a 23 tooth pinion (64pitch) for their final 2-lap race, and that the spur gears runs right under the circumference of the drive wheel, so maybe a 105 tooth.

We are going to have to wait until firefly gets on here, he's from Moorebank.
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Re: Yet Another Maximiser

Postby miseli » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:20 pm

Yes, the Box Hill unit and the Black Magic unit performed very similarly with the test car.

With the Box Hill unit the test car ran a 16.11 second lap at 91% sun (sunlight is averaged over the entire lap). 5 minutes later and with the Black Magic unit in place the car ran a 16.25 second lap in 89.5% sun. The panel had also been gradually heating up in the sun.

Once the panel had cooled down a bit again it was given another go and this time the Black Magic unit recorded a 16.43 second lap at 79.3% sun. This was the fastest time of the three listed here per unit sunlight and using the seeding formula is predicted to run a 14.98 second lap at 120% sun.

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Re: Yet Another Maximiser

Postby TonyB » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:49 pm

We will never know for certain unless we do a proper 1-1 comparison with identical cars, and dyno testing.
There are too many variables, even a small gust of wind can effect your time by 0.1 of a second.

It did however perform as i expected, and if i wasn't confident itll work, i wouldn't of asked you to test it.

The firmware for this unit was coded in a matter of hours, and in saying that, i feel there is still room for improvement. I know i can make the unit track faster, and regulate better. Something to work on this holidays i guess.

I might even integrate the gear change buzzer into it as well ;) .

Thanks for your testing Marc.
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Re: Yet Another Maximiser

Postby Redlands » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:54 pm

TonyB wrote:I might even integrate the gear change buzzer into it as well .


yes please do!

But what is the story with the 2010 rules? I have heard that there may be an advantage in not using an optimiser due to a new weight penalty system, can Marc shed any light here?
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Re: Yet Another Maximiser

Postby TonyB » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:05 pm

Yes..

Well i guess the release of the BM to the public would be entirely dependent on whether there is demand or not. If the use of electronics is disadvantageous, then demand for electronics would be minimal and i wont bother going into production.

SMD assembly costs a fortune for low productions runs :x , and i cant sit there all night hot air soldering.
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Re: Yet Another Maximiser

Postby Redlands » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:12 pm

Hmm... yeah that it fair enough.

If the rules don't swing in the order of not using electronics you can expect an order from Aquinas :D
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Re: Yet Another Maximiser

Postby miseli » Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:36 am

Well, what's probably going to happen for starters is that the extra 20% added weight for using electronics will be removed. Those cars without electronics will however then have their weight reduced instead. This makes cars without electronics lighter and will give them a better chance in the lower sunlights.

The formula for electronics will most probably go back to what it was before this year. I don't know what the exact figure of reduction is then going to be for those without electronics, but I think it might be set up to maybe give the advantage to one or the other depending on the level of sunlight. Although it would be nice to have, I doubt teams will be allowed to interchange between the two during the competition. In other words, teams might have a choice to make depending on what the day is looking like.

Electronics will therefore still certainly be worth having.

Because the advantage without electronics will only exist if you have your car set up to meet the conditions, many teams will probably just stick with electronics and the one gear ratio anyway for the convenience.
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Re: Yet Another Maximiser

Postby will774 » Sun May 09, 2010 1:08 am

How is the Black Magic maximiser going? I was thinking of trying to get one for this year's challenge. An update on it's status would be appreciated :)
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